Von: jsnyder@feist.com (Joan Snyder)
  Datum: 13.01.99, 19:12:05
Betreff: Baden Duchy of Germany

Dear List friends,
Due to several requests on Baden Duchy of Germany, I am sending to the
list, information sent from several replies.  I received several, but am
only listing only a few.  I appreciated all the responses.  These
responses were probably the most complete.

My family came to America in 1847 and am wondering about Who  and What
was the Grand Duchy Baden.  Did they have any other family names?  And
where could I find information on these families?

Searching, Wirth, Bauer, Walldecker, Nasser. from Baden,  Germany near
Black Forest area.

Thanks Joan

Joan,

Though I don't have the information to answer your other questions, the
Grand Duchy of Baden simply refers to the German region of Baden during
the
years when it was ruled by a Grand Duke, which is a type of high-ranking

prince.  (Before Germany was unified as an empire in 1871, it was
composed
of dozens of small and independently-governed regions, or "states," and
was
not a single nation, though their territory was all considered to be
German.  Baden was one of these; the former kingdom of Wuerttemberg,
which
is now combined with Baden, was another.)

Baden was officially a grand duchy from approximately 1806 until 1918,
at
the end of World War I.  Baden is one of the two regions which are today

(since 1952) incorporated together and known as Baden-Wuerttemberg.  The

region is located in southwestern Germany, and its western border is
shared
with France.  The "Black Forest" (known as the Schwarzwald in German) is

located in southern Baden, and covers a fairly large area.  There are
some
pages on the Web with a history of Baden at the following addresses:

http://www.mmhs.org/faq/faqbaden.htm
http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/BAD-WUE/BW.html

You can also see outline maps and general info of Baden at:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~deubadnw/

Hope this is of help to you!

Best wishes,
Carla HELLER
Los Angeles

Hi there,

Baden was never a kingdom, but rather an independently governed German
territory (as were most places which comprised what was considered
"Germany"---there was no single country by that name until Germany
became an
empire in 1871).  The official ruling power in Baden from approximately
1806
until the end of World War I in 1918 was called the Grand Duke of Baden,
or
the "Erherzog" in German, and the area which he ruled was called a grand

duchy.  In the 1840's, this would have been the Erherzog Leopold,
followed
by Ludwig [Louis] II, and then by Friedrich [Frederick] I and Frederick
II.
Some rulers of Baden were *appointed,* not hereditary.  The family name
which is associated with the rulership of Baden (but mainly in medieval
times) is ZAHRINGEN.  See the following Web site (look for the heading
titled "BADEN") for more information, and a list of the rulers of Baden
through 1918:

http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/germany.html

Hope this is of help to you.

Sincerely,
Carla HELLER
Los Angeles


Subject:
            Re: WIRTH
       Date:
            Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:25:54 -0700
      From:
            Charlotte Pittman <utdoody@xpressweb.com>
        To:
            jsnyder@feist.com
 References:
            1
Have a Georg or George born in 1762 and 1765.  But none later than that.

Charlotte


At 08:14 PM 1/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Dear Charlotte,
>My Wirth is from Unterschurpf, Boxberg, Baden, Germany: Great
Grandmother
>Christiane Rosine Wirth b. 1839, d 1902 Doniphan Co., KS m. William
Frederick
>Winzer of Saxony, Germany.
>
>Christiane's parents were George Albrecht Wirth b. 1811 Baden, Germany,
d.
1853
>Newberg, Indiana and Karoline Gerner b. 1813 Baden, Germany d. 1844
Baden
>Germany.
>
>George Albrecht Wirth parents were George Christian Wirth b. 1778 d.
1837
>Baden, Germany, parents Georg Wirth and Maria Catherine Waldecker (no
dates or
>places) George Albrecht Wirth m. Elizabeth Nasser b. 1770 d. 1838
Baden,
>Germany.  Her parents were Albrecht Nasser d. Unterschupf, Boxberg,
Baden,
>Germany and Magnalena Bauer.
>
>Karolina Gerner's parents were Johann Philip Gerner and Anna Maria
Klingmann.
>
>I do have a history written by Karoline Gerner Wirth's brother Chris
Wirth, about
>coming to America and his life with some details.  He basically wrote
about
>happenings and not people.
>
>Thanks for your response, Joan
>
>